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Stainless steel pellet probes
« on: October 11, 2016, 09:46:32 PM »

Does anyone know if the stainless steel pellet probes are still available? I have a .177 version in my Scorpion and are now after a .22 for mt R10.

Looked on XTXs website as I know he used to list them, but they are not there at present.

Anyone have any idea if they are available anywhere else?

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 09:48:42 PM »

There should be some available soon, I'm getting another batch sorted as soon as possible but teh machine shop is very busy at the moment.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 07:04:14 PM »

Thanks Tom, if you can let me know when you get some I'll have one off you if possible?

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 11:40:19 PM »

I will be interested in one as well.

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2016, 05:04:52 PM »

Tom, any further news on the stainless probes, I'm after one in .22 if they're still in production.

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 07:56:10 PM »

I'm after one for my .177 R10 as well.Have been trolling the net but not able to source one.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 08:49:42 PM »

Currently I'm the only manufacturer, I supply Darrin (XTX Air) as well, however we are awaiting a new batch which will be ready in the new year sometime.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 09:49:30 PM »

Worth the wait lads transformed my gun. We are very lucky to have RT and xtx. Happy Xmas to both And all.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 09:20:51 AM »

Were there any .25 probes this time?
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 12:49:16 PM »

I'll put one on the list Riku, no promises exactly when but it will get done.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2016, 12:50:16 PM »

I'll put one on the list Riku, no promises exactly when but it will get done.

Thanks Tom, looking forward to it. Come to think of it, have you kept the stock detent ball and barrel port opening locations - or would it be beneficial to shift them a bit for more positive locking? You could add a tad shorter banjo and bolt to package and people would get rid of that jumpy bolt.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2016, 12:58:34 PM »

I'm currently working on the bolt handle "jump" problem for the next batch. I don't want to modify the banjo or retaining screw as this will mean further parts or modifying existing parts to fit which means it's less of a DIY job for those who don't want to send the rifle to me or Darrin, the bolt jump problem should be solved or greatly improved in the next batch.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2016, 06:44:46 PM »

Do left hand R10's use the same bolt as for right handed or are they made different?
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2016, 10:27:31 PM »

Lefty are different to righty, I make both in both calibres when I get time in the machine shop.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 07:14:26 PM »

Please forgive my ignorance, why are stainless steel pellet probes better than the standard B.S.A. pellet probes ? , also are
the stainless steel pellet probes, easy to fit ? ,and in what way are the stainless steel pellet probes  ( S.S.P.P. ) better than
standard P.P.  A.T.B. shy talk.    :c017:
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2017, 09:36:26 PM »

The original BSA probe is chrome plated, the problem is that the spring loaded detent ball that helps hold the bolt closed wears away the chrome plating during use. No such problem with a stainless steel probe.

However to fit one requires part disassembly of the rifle and this would mean removal of the anti tamper parts on a new gun.

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2017, 06:59:00 AM »

The original probes are also poorly finished making for a gravel like feel when loading.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2017, 10:38:56 AM »

The BSA probes are actually nickel plated not chrome, but the nickel plating wears and flakes off causing flakes of nickel to shred the pellet probe seal, magazine O ring, pollute the hammer cylinder and can even get into the barrel causing scratches in the rifling.
If you return a gun under warranty for this fault they simply fit a new nickel plated bolt for you and the problem comes back a few days/weeks/months later...
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2017, 06:17:39 PM »

Thank you MikeH, and RKR for enlightening me. I have two B.S.A. air rifles, R10 and a Goldstar SE both in .177" caliber so
can I order one Stainless Steel pellet probe for each air rifle, if RT can can let me know, when and how to pay for them
I will be much obliged. Thank you and all the best.   shy talk.   :c017:
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2017, 08:19:48 PM »

Currently waiting to get the next batch made, probably late Jan or early Feb before I have finished the batch, I will announce on here when ready, Darrin (XTX Air) will have them back on his website and if my website is actually running by then I'll advertise them there too.
Keep an eye open, as soon as I have some for sale I'll let everyone know.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2017, 05:56:30 PM »

Brill, thanks For the update RT.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 04:04:30 PM »

Tom what causes the bolt to ''JUMP'' ? and if your going to reduce this jump on the next batch of probes how will this effect the rifle in a positive way ?

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 04:20:38 PM »

Tom what causes the bolt to ''JUMP'' ? and if your going to reduce this jump on the next batch of probes how will this effect the rifle in a positive way ?

john.
Poor location of the bolt detent ball can cause bolt jump, I am looking to make a slightly deeper more positive location for the ball. Bolt jump is caused by vibration/shock from the hammer and exhaust valve so can't be totally eliminated without a positive lock.
Using a heavier ball handle may reduce the jump but with the original poor location of the detent the bolt may be over-rotating causing transfer port alignment problems and reducing gas flow. This may be hardly noticeable at 12FtLb but at FAC levels it can be an issue especially as there is a greater degree of vibration from heavier hammer and harder slam of the exhaust valve.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 04:29:28 PM »

Ok thank's for the quick reply , i'll keep an eye open for your new one's in the future

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2017, 07:27:49 AM »

Poor location of the bolt detent ball can cause bolt jump, I am looking to make a slightly deeper more positive location for the ball. Bolt jump is caused by vibration/shock from the hammer and exhaust valve so can't be totally eliminated without a positive lock.
Using a heavier ball handle may reduce the jump but with the original poor location of the detent the bolt may be over-rotating causing transfer port alignment problems and reducing gas flow. This may be hardly noticeable at 12FtLb but at FAC levels it can be an issue especially as there is a greater degree of vibration from heavier hammer and harder slam of the exhaust valve.

In FAC guns the bolt can actually pop open and retract. 30 fpe is still OK but once you go higher the bolt will sway higher and at some point it will open and the probe will shoot back.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2017, 05:33:55 AM »

Scary knowing the nickle coating can get in the barrel and scratch it. I will be keeping my I out for the SS probes, hopefully I will be able to snag one. a06
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2017, 07:28:04 PM »

RT any joy getting these made up yet? I could do with one for my .177 R10.

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2017, 08:58:25 PM »

My CNC lads are doing their best, they've had people ill in hospital and all sorts of other reasons these have got delayed, I'm not happy about it taking so long but there's nothing I can do at the moment. As yet I have no delivery date. I will post as soon as they become available.
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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2017, 09:20:07 PM »

My CNC lads are doing their best, they've had people ill in hospital and all sorts of other reasons these have got delayed, I'm not happy about it taking so long but there's nothing I can do at the moment. As yet I have no delivery date. I will post as soon as they become available.

Thanks for the fast reply. I'll keep my eyes open

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Re: Stainless steel pellet probes
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2017, 05:22:23 PM »

How easy are these to fit?
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